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[chrismichaels]

Hi, I'm a college student from Seattle writing a paper taking the position that consensual incest and GSA are not only more common than people think but also that despite the unpopularity and taboo, incestuous relationships deserve the same rights as I was wondering if any of you have happy, consummated relationships with a close relative or any stories of relationships you've had that ended amicably? I would really like to get some great examples, of course names, places etc are not necessary nor are they wanted. Thank you so very much for your time.

[mermaid]

well I don't have what you want but as a person not affected myself by GSA I would support your position
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[communityawareness]

Hi chrismichaels,

Very open and would love to talk. Email me gsasupportaustralia@gmail.com

Jennifer

[northerunit]

I have struggled with this for many years. And reading some of the stories on here I have felt some comfort to know I am not alone!
My story; I was placed in a foster home when I was 2 and lived with them and was eventually adopted by them. I however knew some of my family through my Grand parents. I didn't however know my half sisters until I was in my 20's. I was married for 19 years with out a feeling of complete love and divorced. I got involved with my younger sister at this time in life. No we didn't ever cross the line of a physical relationship but were pretty much inseparable. My other half sister and I have a very distant relationship. sort of like cousins. Same with my older half brother. But me and my little sis are like connected at the hip. Many folks think we are married when they meet us. We don't resemble each other at all She is brunette and short I am blonde and very tall. We have different fathers.
Anyway, we pretty much stayed with the close friend thing until one night "my birthday" we crossed over... We were talking and crying about all our failures to have relationships and how close we were and why we couldn't meet someone like ourselves. Well we kissed and it just exploded into a passion which has gone on for four years. We have tried time and time again to have other relationships and separated for a year at times. I even married again, but it failed due to addictions, and probably this…We are both fixed and have no intent on having kids, but it has come to a point where we are talking and making plans to move away together just so we can be "us". We have been an on and off again thing for 4 years now and have declared we are completely in love with one another. We keep our distance but my mother has been very angry at times because she suspects. We go out of town and spend time together, and sometimes when our kids are away “they are all in their late teens and twenties” But every time we are together there is an overwhelming feeling of togetherness, and just a feeling this is the right person the only person I am happy with. The attraction is at time so overwhelming it hurts..
WHAT TO DO! We have something that seems to transcend the pitfalls of other relationships but we are also living in secret. My sis sais it a f^@ked up relationship, but doesn't want it to go away. She sais we have something no-one else has and it is so good, I completely feel I and her are totally meant to be together. I have tried to block it out but there is the longing "we both have talked about" when we are , or have tried to be with someone else there is a continual thought "I whish it was her/him." We have cried and just held each other, we have tried and failed so many times it comes to just moving away and being us... Give me your thoughts... I have fear, but I would die for her, and frankly I am completely in love with her... And she with me... I just want to spend my life with her… and be free to do so! We are not going to or want to have kids… so the genetic thing is moot. We are in our 40’s and just want to be happy! What to do..?

[northerunit]

Your post is too closed minded. There are some of these relationships which are consensual, adult and who or what government sais two adults can't choose their own happiness... Oh... yes This one... So much for freedom of choice... I live with this in the back of my mind... I have shared my story and I will say I cannot see any reason why my half sis and I cannot be together legally... oh, we can because we are not legally related... same lawmakers... Don't tell so we find each other later and fall in love... ARG... Open your mind to livable possibilities... Child abuse is just that but when two adults consent to be together who thinks the are in the right to say you can decide for them.... My half sis and I have a wonderful feeling for one another and the only stigma is societies rule... Crap... "I didn't choose to love her, it was a gift of this life!

[mermaid]

don't think you read my message. I was supporting Chris's position.
I have stated my viewpouint frequently on these boards but to clairify I don't think that any consensual relationship between two (or any number of) adults should be illegal. I don't believe the law should have anything to do with consensual adult relationships. I think marriage should be legal between consenting adults regardless of their biological relationship and i think polygamous marriage and relationships should be permitted
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[liltimetothink]

I also did a paper on incest for a psychology class. I recently read a book- Taboo: A Memoir by Tom Hathaway. Although he gives a more-than-salacious view of his relationship with his mother, you also get the impression that both of these two people(adults) ended up having a fruitful and fulfilling relationship.

[rollingrocker1972]

It does not matter whether others accept us, only whether we accept ourselves.

When someone seeks or demands acceptance from other people, it is to compensate for a lack of self-acceptance. The gay man who constantly harps about homophobia (Yeah, I'm looking at you Perez Hilton) is secretly harboring a hatred of himself. He feels bad about who he is and looks to others to ease that sense of guilt and shame. He becomes agitated when that reassurance is not forthcoming. This is an appeal to the to the authority of the crowd, a false authority if there ever was one.

Right and wrong are not a matter of consensus. If something is good, then it is good regardless of how many people view it as evil. If something is evil, then it is evil regardless of how many people view it as good. Reality isn't subject to a vote. Public opinion doesn't determine the color of the sky or the melting point of water.

The same holds true for consensual relationships between adults. Relationships that cause harm are wrong. Relationships that do not cause harm are right, or are at least not wrong. It doesn't matter how unpopular such a relationship is, or how many people condemn it. It will still be right and good because that is the impact it has on the lives of the people who are subject to its consequences. Likewise a relationship that causes harm to those it affects is wrong no matter how much other people approve of it or praise it.

Looking to others for approval is foolish. Their approval is meaningless because they have no standing. The only approval that matters is that of the people involved. Nothing else matters.

The right to a GSA relationship (and there is such a right) need never be recognized as long as the right to privacy is preserved. As long as what we do in the privacy of our own homes is not subject to arbitrary investigation, then our relationships will continue in peace.

There are fights that must be fought, and there are fruitless victories. Demanding public acceptance of GSA is most definitely the latter. The acceptance of others is meaningless to those who accept themselves.

[cap]

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